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Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:19 am
by AUKC
I had bloods taken last November. I've been on NMN for about the last 6 months we'll say.

I've just had bloods taken again. Should I have asked for a specific test? What changes should I look for in a simple blood test?

Anyone with some background in this field able to provide some specific advice?

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:24 am
by drkris69
Here's some inflammation markers to look at.

1.SMC Endothelin.- Atherosclerotic vascular disease, inflammatory cytokine release, platelet aggregation, cell adhesions, vascular smooth muscle proliferation.

2.SMC Inerleukin-6.- Pro-Inflamatory cytokine that may increase platelet aggregation, synthesis of C-reactive protein and is associated with severity of cardiovascular disease, autoimmune conditions and certain cancers.

3.SMC Interleukin-17A.- T cell derived cytocine that stimulates stomal cells and macrophages to secrete pro-inflammatory cytokines. It is resonsible for inducing and mediating immune and inflammatory responses.

4.SMC-TNF-alpha.- Pro-inflammatory cytokine secreted by macrophages.

5.Lp-PLA2.- Chronic vascular specific inflammatory enzyme that occurs on the inside of blood vessels.

6.CRP (C-reactive protein)

7.Homocysteine.- Byproduct of methionine production, Methylation status marker.

I hope this helps.

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:54 pm
by Drdavid
drkris69 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:24 am
Here's some inflammation markers to look at.

1.SMC Endothelin.- Atherosclerotic vascular disease, inflammatory cytokine release, platelet aggregation, cell adhesions, vascular smooth muscle proliferation.

2.SMC Inerleukin-6.- Pro-Inflamatory cytokine that may increase platelet aggregation, synthesis of C-reactive protein and is associated with severity of cardiovascular disease, autoimmune conditions and certain cancers.

3.SMC Interleukin-17A.- T cell derived cytocine that stimulates stomal cells and macrophages to secrete pro-inflammatory cytokines. It is resonsible for inducing and mediating immune and inflammatory responses.

4.SMC-TNF-alpha.- Pro-inflammatory cytokine secreted by macrophages.

5.Lp-PLA2.- Chronic vascular specific inflammatory enzyme that occurs on the inside of blood vessels.

6.CRP (C-reactive protein)

7.Homocysteine.- Byproduct of methionine production, Methylation status marker.

I hope this helps.
CRP and Homocysteine are two inexpensive markers that you could easily follow. Others would be HDL, LDL, testosterone

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:23 am
by AUKC
I see. Interesting.

I must have to ask for these marker tests specifically. The ones they've done so far don't include any of them haha.

I have set an appointment with the endocrinologists on Jan 17th to begin testosterone tests.

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:11 am
by Newage
AUKC wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:23 am
I see. Interesting.

I must have to ask for these marker tests specifically. The ones they've done so far don't include any of them haha.

I have set an appointment with the endocrinologists on Jan 17th to begin testosterone tests.
AUKC
Testosterone can be tested through normal bloodwork as long as it is specifically requested by your GP..
Where are you from?

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:19 am
by AUKC
Newage wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:11 am
Testosterone can be tested through normal bloodwork as long as it is specifically requested by your GP..
Where are you from?
Yeah I know, but the gp's i've been to here (Australia) are on some other shit. Apparently requesting a general assessment of health and testosterone are not valid reasons for getting a blood test. So I asked the GP to refer me to a specialist as I am not confident in his ability and that I wouldn't be going there again haha.

So I got the referral to endo.

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 am
by AUKC
I mean he gave me the blood test in the end, but not for test.

Mind you, the blood test both this time and 1 year ago with different gp (when requesting full general blood test), only seem to have been very basic tests.

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:10 am
by Newage
AUKC wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 am
I mean he gave me the blood test in the end, but not for test.

Mind you, the blood test both this time and 1 year ago with different gp (when requesting full general blood test), only seem to have been very basic tests.
AUKC.
Find a better GP.
I’m from Australia and I use a number of different General Practitioners and only have to ask to include specific markers in blood work.
CRP, HDL and LDL are all part of normal screening along with Testosterone if you have the right GP.
Homocysteine is a 24 hour urine test that is done through a specific pathology practice and you have to pay for that yourself, from memory about $100 or so.
You need to find a GP that listens and is prepared to think outside the square..👍

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:16 am
by Drdavid
AUKC wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 am
I mean he gave me the blood test in the end, but not for test.

Mind you, the blood test both this time and 1 year ago with different gp (when requesting full general blood test), only seem to have been very basic tests.
Can you not order blood tests via internet in Australia? I have thousands of people order tests from all over this way.

Re: Blood test changes - what to look for?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:41 pm
by Newage
Drdavid wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:16 am
AUKC wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 am
I mean he gave me the blood test in the end, but not for test.

Mind you, the blood test both this time and 1 year ago with different gp (when requesting full general blood test), only seem to have been very basic tests.
Can you not order blood tests via internet in Australia? I have thousands of people order tests from all over this way.
The majority of blood tests that are ordered through your General Practitioner are funded by the government and the cost is reimbursed directly to the pathology lab.
That is why some Doctors have restrictions on general health screening tests if you are of a young age or have no symptoms.
If that is the case and you offer to pay for the pathology then the referral for the tests would normally be granted.